Jean Hardouin and the Phantom Time Conspiracies

2/28/2015

What if everything you ever knew about history and classical literature was fundamentally wrong? What if there were a massive conspiracy, set in motion by medieval monks, to create entire bodies of literature and claim they were much older, or to invent centuries of history? In this episode, we trace the pseudo-history of the great "monastic conspiracy" from its origins in the writings of a French Jesuit in the 17th century to the bizarre New Chronology of a Russian mathematician in the 20th.

Podcaster: Nathan

Further Reading

Hardouin's Prolegomena

Anthony Grafton, "Jean Hardouin: The Antiquary as Pariah," Journal of the Warburg and Courtauld Institutes 62 (1999): 241-267.

Related Content

This episode is part of our Medieval Conspiracy Theories Series.

Music: "Evening Melodrama" by Kevin Macleod (www.incompetech.com)

John Miller

7/29/2018 06:10:25 am

I realise that this is from 3 years ago, but someone recently made me aware of it.

My only question..has the podcaster actually READ any of the writings he dismisses out of hand here? These people "were obviously wrong", were they? And your EVIDENCE for this is the same evidence used by all 'historians'...because your school textbooks(and today Wikipedia) say that it can't be right!

As Johnson showed, before the 16th century AD...NOTHING was dated, according to the BC/AD chronology. Dates were recorded as, eg., "In the second year of the reign of King Louis", nothing more. Some people used the Indiction Cycle, where the "Date" may read, eg. "Solar 6, Lunar 5, Indiction 3". Then the next year would be "Solar 7, Lunar 6, Indiction 4". However, each of the three dates would periodically "reset". And it's virtually impossible to make sense of them today.

If we know that the BC/AD Chronology was created in the "late 16th century AD", the obvious questions become "By who?', and far more importantly "HOW?". The first is universally agreed upon today. By Christian Fundamentalists. One need only do a quick Google for names like 'Joseph Scaliger' and 'Dionysius Petavius', to see the universal acceptance of this fact.

But then, if they were Christian Fundamentalists(even naming every date as a "Before Christ" or "Anno Domini" one), then it is obvious how they went about assigning a "Correct "date to every event. As one of their very number, Jean De Fregeville , one of the architects of the BC/AD Chronology stated(in "1582 AD"):

"Chronology must never be based on secular history, but must be used only for the confirmation of biblical king lists and events"

That single statement really does say it all. However, I can also add that it is this precise time when the Index Librorum Prohibitorum was introduced.

Thus, Johnson felt correct to state:

" My final as my first word must be
: You cannot ascend, in the retrospect, above, or even so high, as the year 1500. "

Johnson also pointed to the numerous "errors" In Mediaeval and Renaissance artwork, literature etc. which "mix up" the Classical and the Mediaeval. Pope Damasus immediately precedes Martin Luther. 15th century authors write of Plato as though he has only recently died. Painters depict the Ancient Greeks as Mediaeval Byzantines, Claudius Ptolemy and Nicolaus Copernicus are viewed as contemporaries etc. etc. Johnson saw this as evidence that nobody knew anything of chronology before the Bible Fundamentalists created the Illusion that is the widely accepted 'History'.

However, Fomenko has discovered that the Mediaeval/Renaissance artists, authors, etc. actually DID know what they were talking about. In fact, those "anachronistic" depictions may be the Reality. Today, WE only see them as "erroneous", because we have been raised on the Chronology that exists "only for the confirmation of biblical king lists and events".

One must also remember that if(and yes, that's a huge, highly unlikely IF) the works of Hardouin, Johnson, Baldauf, Kammeier, Morozov and Fomenko were ever treated with anything than an out-of-hand dismissal by the Establishment...

..then overnight thousands, no far more, of "Experts" would become laughing stocks overnight. MANY famous Historical books would be rendered Fiction overnight. Museums, documentaries, displays would be exposed as Lies. Many tenured Professors(and indeed all archaeologists, lecturers, authors, museum guides and more) would be shown up for lying to the Public, promoting a Fictitious Past.

Thus, any criticism of the Official Version MUST be ridiculed, and MUST be said to be "wrong". Because to even give it the time of day(impossible before the mid-16th century AD, btw), would be to risk your own career. And your own cushy income.

Jesus wasn't an "amalgam"(or whatever term you used, I'm not re-listening.) He was ONE man.

http://chronologia.org/en/car_slav/index.html

Did you read Hardouin and Fomenko, with the mindset "These are some CRAZY conspiracy theory nerds!" Or did you keep an open mind? Have you read Johnson at all? Baldauf?

When you say "but it is documented", have you ever asked "Documented by WHO?", and "Documented WHEN?"

(The irony here is that the one AUTHENTIC document may actually be the Donation of Constantine...)

An Observation

1/27/2021 05:19:14 pm

He's right you know.... this podcast seems to have been done in a rush with the help of some hurried reviews of wikipedia pages.

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