How could a line of latitude become a rallying cry for war in the 19th century? Elizabeth examines the Oregon Border Dispute and explains the myths and passions surrounding the slogan.
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Emerson Hough, 54-40 or Fight, 1909.
Music: "Evening Melodrama" by Kevin Macleod (www.incompetech.com)
1/15/2017 12:12:54 am
PLEASE. I do not live in Or e gone but in Ore gun. Grates on my ears I enjoy the podcasts but wish you young people would learn correct pronunciation.
1/17/2017 08:23:55 pm
Eleanor, since I read this comment on my 37th birthday, I mostly want to give you a massive hug for calling me a young person ;) I promise you that unfortunately the pronunciation is regional (my parents are from the Bronx, NY) more than chronological BUT I also promise you I won't make this mistake again!
1/19/2017 09:59:00 am
haha, I came here to correct your pronunciation, but I can see someone beat me to it. If it helps, I'm a "young" person too, but I live in Oregon, and it hurts my ears to hear "Or-Gone" instead of "Ore-Gun". And believe, me, you're not the only one from the east coast who pronounces it incorrectly, I don't think it's a generational thing at all.... :)
1/29/2017 12:33:30 am
I certainly found this episode interesting, but it could have had more human interest. You didn't mention Dr. John McLauglin, for instance.
11/16/2017 07:20:00 pm
I, unlike Eleanor, find your pronunciation of Oregon to be perfectly acceptable, and I strongly think that you do not deserve the hate you are receiving for this minor pronunciation error.
11/16/2017 08:13:40 pm
I dispute your comment Lexi. I believe that the pronunciation of Oregon was, and always will be, the most important part of the entire podcast! Almost as important as Polk's presidency and America's natural right to take land from England. I was however happy that a couple times throughout the podcast you (Elizabeth) used the correct pronunciation before preceding back to the wrong pronunciation.
11/17/2017 08:54:18 am
Greetings Spencer, I would like to politely dispute your most recent commit. I feel that you are being much too judgy and should learn to accept all pronunciations of the word Oregon.
11/17/2017 08:59:04 am
I am not sure if you are aware, but there are other words than dispute when talking about disagreeing an argument. I highly recommend that you use Thesaurus.com as a resource if your brain can not think of synonyms.
11/17/2017 08:56:45 am
Why hello again.. Lexi... I am glad that we are both using the word "dispute", however i am sure that you would pronounce it "desp-oot" because you believe that mispronunciation has no effect on the meaning of the word.
11/17/2017 09:00:46 am
Salutations Mr. Smith, I would first like to say that our comments are shortly going to get delete; however, your savage attack of my pronunciation of the world dispute is both unnecessary and false.
11/17/2017 09:03:30 am
I agree with Spencer. The name "Lexi Bortnick" seems like an uneducated person who would pronounce the word "dispute" as "desp-oot". Sarah or Fiona would be a more respectable name than Lexi.
11/17/2017 09:02:53 am
Hey Lexi, i totally agree with Spencer on this one. Sorry but pronunciation is key for a valid argument, savage or not.
11/14/2019 01:35:53 pm
Wow what a fang-tastic episode!
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